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Group is a term used by different air forces for an element of military organization. The size of a group varies considerably between different countries. The terms group and wing are used differently in different air forces and this can cause confusion.

In the Royal Air Force (RAF) and most other Commonwealth air forces, a group is usually a formation of several wings, which in turn control two or more squadrons.

At the present time, groups control stations, although expeditionary air groups control expeditionary air wings directly. Groups are directly subordinate to a command (or, historically, to a tactical air force).

When the RAF was formed, an officer with the rank of Group Captain (equivalent to Colonel) commanded such a unit, although they have been commanded by Air Vice-Marshals since before the Second World War.

By contrast, in the French Armee de l’Air, a groupe may comprise only one squadron (escadron). Similarly, In the United States Air Force and the United States Marine Corps, a group is a formation consisting of as few as two squadrons. Two or more groups form a wing.

Therefore a British group is equivalent to a US wing, which is in turn equivalent to an army regiment, whereas one step down the nomenclature, a British wing is equivalent to a US group.



Memories of Group

RAF HQ 42 GROUP KIDLINGTON in 1949
Written by WI'LLILAM KNOWLES
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" Remember the hockey matches which we played weekly and the devastating results. The evening meal was perhaps the high light of the day. Johnny Oakes in goal. Remember also the comradeship in A6 BILLETT of the *P* staff lads. We made the best of being national service lads. Early morning cleaning, lighting the stoves etc and then a leisurely breakfast whilst the late risers (THE NON CLEANERS) hadto attend morning parade. Remember Flt Lt.Mc.Donough , P2 officer well I have traced him and been in touch with him by post. He was so pleased to be remembered "


RAF KIDLINGTON,. HQ 42 GROUP; MAINT.COMM, in 1949
Written by WILLIAM KNOWLES
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" REFERRING TO MY MEMORY ITEM ALREADY RECORDED. SAD TO SAY THAT FLT.LT. JOHN PASSED AWAY LATE 2004. WE DO EXCHANGE CARDS WITH GREETINGS FOR CHRISTMAS WITH HIS WIFE AND FAMILY. LIFE SEEMS TOO SHORT TO SAY ALL THE THINGS WE OUGHT."


L.A.D. REME 5 Inf. Bde. Group, Iserlohn in 1958
Written by Maurice Broadhurst
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"I remember making some great friends, notably, Roy Waters (Vasser) from Isle of Man; Bill Williams from Bradford; Emo Emmett from Halifax and Geordie Mufford from Newcastle. I would love to hear from any of them. "


Comacchio Group in 1979
Written by Gordon Gillies

"Birthed in HMS Neptune after a morning briefing we were divided into two groups, smokers and non smokers. Smokers stayed in Neptune non smokers off to Coulport. Happy days if you were a smoker, the novelty of Coulport soon wore off, with midgies in summer and cold wind and rain (most days) that would rival Elvagee on a bad day, from end of Sept. right through to the following May. Numbers were boosted,sections were formed and we rotated between both locations."



Forces Reunited Forum Posts involving Group

"IM ALLAN ( SOOTY ) SUTCLIFFE I DID MY BASIC TRAINING AT SIMPSON BARRACKS, AFTER BASIC TRAINING I WAS POSTED TO 522 COY, CAD KINETON IN MARCH 1971, ON DOG SECTION. JAN 1972 I WAS POSTED TO EBRINGTON BARRACKS, LONDONDERRY, N/IRELAND, ON ROVER GROUP, I WAS THE DEPUTIES COMMANDERS BODYGUARD, UNTIL MY DEMOB IN NOV 1973. SO SOMEBODY OUT THERE MUST REMEMBER ME, IF YOU DO GET IN TOUCH."

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" I am tired of the continual going on surrounding the England football team, when we do not have players good enough at the top level.  Anyhow I know nothing about football so I support Millwall!!!Look folks it will be the same at the Olympics when all the commentary will be about the chances ..."

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" Is Douglas MacLeod or Ron Pass or anyone, who was at Deolali in August 1944 on the RA Group that came out on the Strathnaver?Or for that matter any VADs?"

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" Understanding Engineers - Take One > > Two engineering students were walking across the campus when one said, Two engineering students were walking across the campus when one said, > "Where did you get such a great bike?" "Where did you get such a great bike?" > The second engineer replied, ..."

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" Have posted on a news group about raf quarters march outs. They having trouble taking in none army types do such things. Could a few people post march out horror stories, so i can prove that its not the army alone that has march outs of quarters. ta and thanks Dave"

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Pictures of Group

ROVER GROUP ( ROYAL PIONEER CORPS ) AT 8TH INF BDE, HQ & SIG SQN, EBRINGTON BARRACKS, LONDONDERRY, N/IRELAND. BETWEEN JANUARY 1972 & DECEMBER 1973. RPC. ROVER GROUP LONDONDERRY, N/IRELAND 1972 - 1973. Group Captain Allerton with ACLO Team, RAF Stafford 1984 Kingston Jamaica, what a delight as a young sprog to go ashore here and also in Trinidad.
The British West Indies, so called in those days was truly the best time of my Navy Life, every one was so friendly, a truly lovelly bunch of friends I made over there, I was even taught how to play the Drums, which later stood me in good stead to be Drummer for our Group called THE CRAVATS, formed at HMS HERON YEOVILTON. Naval Air Handlers Group, getting ready to move ground equipment.
1955 Commando Group with Alic Frank Starr Hong Kong 1946
Are you in this photo? K.O.Y.L.I GROUP PHOTOGRAPH PONTEFRACT 1959 THIS IS REPUBLIC STREET IN MALTA, AFTER SEVEN O'CLOCK EVERY EVENING, THE WHOLE OF THE POPULACE START TO WALK BACK AND FORWARD ALONG THIS STREET, IN THEIR FAMILY GROUPS TALKING AS THEY MEET EVERYONE. LOOKS REALLT FRIENDLY. On the N/Yorks moors is a monument to two fallen Grenadiers in WW1 Ive been paying my respect's to Guardsmen of all Regiments for neary 20 yrs .Along with me is group from Billingham who have been with me for the last 11yrs.This year was more sad than than most 5 men from the Grenadiers killed in Afhganistan.So today the 11.11.07 on a cold and rainy day we can say.WE WILL REMEMBER.
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